Talk:Magiclysm

Links to spells/monsters etc

Perhaps we should add '(magiclysm)' to the end of all the links to the monsters and spells. Im worried about overlap between already basegame items/monsters and things added/changed by different mods. --Soyweiser (talk) 00:20, 24 August 2020 (MDT)

I'm not sure how often this would happen with Magiclysm in particular. If there is a possible confusion in a particular case, this would certainly be a reasonable way to distinguish them. -Actual-nh (talk) 23:17, 29 December 2020 (MST)

I've wound up using (Magiclysm spell) in a couple of, well, Magiclysm spells - so far, Lamp and Wooden Shaft; the plain versions are disambiguation pages. -Actual-nh (talk) 18:28, 28 January 2021 (MST)

Help with spell infobox?

Seeing as this is a wide open gap on the wiki currently - that is, that there are no details on any of the Magiclysm spells - I figured I could start remedying that. But I'm not very good at making brand new pages - usually just do simply edits for wikis. Could anyone help me make a simple info box for spells? I am not an experienced editor by any stretch, although I'm familiar with basic formatting and whatnot. NorionV (talk) 00:08, 18 December 2020 (MST)

Not sure if I'll be able to (it's been quite a while), but the first two things to do should be, first, locate a template to base it off of (maybe Template:Book?) and, second, determine what the different fields should be - [[1]] has a rather long listing of possible ones, but most of those won't be found for every spell. -Actual-nh (talk) 15:12, 19 December 2020 (MST)

Oh, that second link is very helpful. Thanks a lot! NorionV (talk) 17:45, 19 December 2020 (MST)

It seems as if most of the fields found in an infobox are pre-existing parameters that can't be easily modified - at least unless I'm doing something wrong. For example, I can't simply add 'shape' to an infobox in a flexible manner - I think it has to be created somewhere else first and then referenced. So I'll probably just put most of the spell's info in the text of the page itself for now, at least until I figure out how to do this part or someone else does it, lol. NorionV (talk) 18:10, 19 December 2020 (MST)

How are you trying to modify them? Sorry if I wasn't clear - I was suggesting making a copy of something like Template:Book to Template:Spell or whatever and modifying that template first (such as the field names), then trying including it in a test page (with the appropriate information. I'm currently somewhat lacking in sleep and need to do some grading in any event, but I will try to take a further look at it in the next week or so. -Actual-nh (talk) 19:41, 19 December 2020 (MST)

So for example, when I try to edit using 'Book' as my template. The first section of that template is 'Infobox/Item', which no matter what I change seems to always keep Volume, Weight, Price, Materials, etc visible, just blank or with a zero. And I can only add/remove stuff that already fits into that infobox, which a lot of it doesn't have to do with spells. If I try to do something like 'shape=blast' it won't even be visible in the infobox, or might even break it and make it appear strangely. It's possible I'm simply doing this super wrong, because as I said I've never created anything new - always just edited existing stuff in wikis.

I suppose I could just fill in what I can and put the rest of the details as a copy/pasted list in the actual text, and just let the superfluous values stay there until someone smarter comes along and fixes it. But it would be neat to know how to do this infobox business, too. NorionV (talk) 22:41, 19 December 2020 (MST)

I am working on it - not sure how far I will get tonight; see Template:Spell and Template:Infobox/Spell. I need to figure out how to get some portions of it (like AOE) show up only when applicable. -Actual-nh (talk) 19:00, 20 December 2020 (MST)

I have discovered that these infoboxes are in two layers - one with the page with a description, and one in a page under Template:Infobox. While rather complicated, this does have the advantage that one can see the changes in the first page (e.g., Template:Spell). -Actual-nh (talk) 19:17, 20 December 2020 (MST)

Regarding optional material to appear, Template:Firearm has some hints. For flags, Template:Firearmflags likewise looks useful. -Actual-nh (talk) 19:41, 20 December 2020 (MST)

Oh, wonderful. I'll try to get familiar with these things, and when that template is finished as best as possible I intend to try adding as many of the spells as I can. But also, take your time - I am in no rush! And thanks for the help with this! NorionV (talk) 06:29, 21 December 2020 (MST)

OK, I have a mostly-complete (I hope) version up at Template:Spell (with flags at Template:Spellflags; Template:Infobox/Spell is not needed). Let me know what changes are needed/desirable, and (of course) if something goes wrong (I haven't really tested it beyond the fields that show up whether you put something in or not). -Actual-nh (talk) 23:12, 29 December 2020 (MST)

Example spell created - Aura of Protection; I've also created a category (Spells subcategory of Magiclysm) that anything including Template:Spell will have, and a Mod box that anything including Template:Spell will show. -Actual-nh (talk) 17:55, 16 January 2021 (MST)